@SemiIocon
As someone raised atheist, I was much more familiar with the "if you don't sin, Jesus died for nothing" joke going around the atheism circuit back in the day.
@robby7499
It always struck me as a control mechanism. The idea that you are so evil and sinful just for existing and need someone to "die for you" is meant to make you feel guilty.
@XeriusFalconbridge
"If we can't morally judge God bad, then how can we judge what he does as good?" has got to be the best apologetic breaker I've heard in a loooong time. Thank you, that is gold.
@HopDances
I think what is so damaging about Christianity is if you truly buy into a literal understanding of the Bible you need to twist your mind into knots in order to feel like a "good christian." I was so confused by the Bible/church from the age of 6 and was met with ire by the adults in my life for not instantly buying into the whole shebang. I was told to be careful with my thinking and to not think I was smarter than God. Imagine having such a frail worldview that a child's first few questions about the fundamental aspects of your faith make you think that the child is being arrogant rather than just the fact that what you believe makes no fucking sense. I eventually learned to stop asking questions and performed the motions everyone else was doing in order to survive. I'm so glad to not be under that oppressive existence any longer, but like you said it's claws still effect my life in ways I'm still unraveling.
@kchardisty
one question that stumped my religious family was “are adam and eve guilty? they didn’t have the knowledge that disobeying god was a bad thing until AFTER they ate of the fruit, so why are we all destined for hell because of that?”
@surfacetension
"You only have this life to determine the future of your immortal soul." One of the main principles of sales is to generate urgency.
@ianbabineau5340
“You come for my cat, we come for you.” You already had my like, wish I could give you a few more.
@juliav.mcclelland2415
Ironically, the king in the Parable of the Unforgiving Servant DID just say "Okay, I forgive you" without needing a human sacrifice (he did retract when the servant turned out to be a jerk, but it was a fitting lesson against hypocrisy in context). He didn't find someone willing to die for the servant who owed him money, he just... forgave the debt and that was it. An omnipotent creator couldn't do the same?
@cindys9491
The worst idea, in my book, was that "we deserve the worst case scenario for being human/imperfect." It teaches low self esteem and even self hatred growing up. Even when we get really good things in life, we somehow "know" we don't deserve them. Toxic.
@adion24
No one ever talks about how it's not really a sacrifice when you absolutely know you're going to respawn. It's like sacrificing a video game character. When you're also the developer.
@FlaminFaux
Growing up Catholic was something else, man. I was in like my 2nd year of Sunday school and the teacher just straight up sat us down one day and said, and I quote, “Every time you sin you’re putting Christ back on the cross.” I was like 7 or 8. That shit stuck with me for years, and obviously I still remember it fresh. Fear and self loathing as a control mechanism sucks.
@Douglas-eldouje
You are one my favorite atheist creators and I really appreciate your work despite not being traumatized by religion myself
@onyxtay7246
You gotta love how they talk about Jesus suffering more than anyone, but at least he got to leave hell. I'm pretty sure the people being infinitely tortured suffered more than him.
@swanslistener6130
"nobody has ever suffered more than jesus" ok but last week i got rejected by the guy i like AND my tummy hurts.
@MercyRenae
I remember being forced to watch The Passion of the Christ every single Easter, and my parents expected me to sob and be practically beside myself with grief and guilt. And when I was young, between ages 8-11, I was. I felt so dirty, so AWFUL, for making Jesus go through that. And then, as I got older, I saw the movie for what it was: torture porn. It was 90 minutes of a ‘Jewish’ (yes I know Jim Caveziel isn’t Jewish but biblical Jesus would technically be ethnically Jewish) man being brutally tortured, and it was produced by notorious anti-semite Mel Gibson. Looking back, it’s utterly insane to me that my parents forced their 8 year old to watch torture porn
@capercaillieskye
Growing up mormon (I was born into it, I'm thankfully an exmo now) I was taught that there's no greater sacrifice than to die for those you love, and christ died for everyone. Now, I think they had that entirely wrong. Dying for someone is definitely a sacrifice, but living for them--spending the long years of your life continually working to show your love to them--is much more of a sacrifice. Besides, most people who die for others don't get to come back and live again just three days later :P
@angelawildman122
I’ve always felt really bad for Jesus even though I’m not Christian. There’s absolutely no reason for an all powerful God to torture someone to death when he could have just not made anyone evil from the start!
@crystalis79
The whole "born evil" and "You are at fault for Jesus' death" was so pervasive that I have spent most of my life fighting with myself. It's no wonder that I developed anxiety and depression. Also, one thing kept going through my head when you were talking about how there is a belief that Jesus suffered the worst pain imaginable, is how long? The whole torture and death of Jesus took, lets be generous and say less than a week. There are people who suffer for years on end. They would long for something so "quick". I'm tired of feeling guilt for something I didn't ask for.
@JaceDeanLove
I love how Christians say "God works in mysterious ways" when they can't answer something, then presume to know things about him not in the Bible
@aeroosprey